“Women say X, women think Y, therefore they must be wrong!!”

I don’t understand what men even think about and they absolutely miss the point on how misogyny works all while portraying feminists as “man-haters”.

Here’s what I’m talking about:

“Society can't say men are paranoid of being viewed as creeps. While simultaneously talking about how uncomfortable men make women.”

What is this “society” bullshit? Why can’t men understand that fearing offending someone and being fearful for their life are TWO DRASTICALLY DIFFERENT THINGS?

“People, especially feminists say that men who are scared of being viewed as creeps are just closeted creeps. Who can't tell the differences between inappropriate behavior and appropriate behavior. Basically saying that men who are just cordial with women in the workplace or even the public, only have two dumb options. Either being a creepy man or a robot who doesn't interact with women at all.”

Because we can tell these kinds of people aren’t educated on how to appropriately interact with women. There is no “two dumb options” to this situation! Dudes, quit acting like a victim and own up to the fact that you need to be educated. Just simply learn to listen to a woman. That’s all you have to do!

“The problem here is that people think false allegations are just a Men Rights movement boogeyman, that paint all women as evil liars.”

Because that’s exactly the point of MRA’s! Here’s the actual problem. You’re trying to gaslight women into believing we’re all liars and then when we call out this behavior, you go around saying “that’s what you THINK”! Pure gaslighting!

“This isn't necessarily the case all the time though. Two people can walk into the same room, and interact with each other. And come out of that room with different perspectives on what happened in that room. Misinterpretations happen all the time.

And also we tell men they must listen to women fears. Because it's important right?”

Yes, except for one problem. Men DON’T listen to women’s fears because they don’t deem it as “important” as you would say. Men are treated as the norm and when a woman comes into the picture, they have to go around and act like victims. Pathetic.

“Women say it makes them uncomfortable when men approach them. Remember that analogy where women would rather be alone in the woods with a bear. Because they think a random man would be more dangerous than a bear.”

No, we don’t “think”. We KNOW. Everyone knows that if you leave a bear alone, it most likely won’t bother you. The same however, cannot be said for a predatory rapist! Yet for some reason, any idiot who doesn’t know it must’ve gotten his ass kicked by a bear due to his own lack of accountability!

“Women say that it's not all men, but always a man though. Women say that every woman they know have a SA experience. Women say they are not mind readers who can magically know which men are good or bad. Since those men are strangers or men they don't know well. So women must be cautious, and assume all men are potential threats. Because it's better to be safe, than sorry.”

Are you even listening to yourself right now? That is such a stupid statement! You seriously cannot tell the difference between the “not all men, but always a man” situation?! The more you spew out this shit, the more you’re proving our point! What in the actual fuck is wrong with you, do you seriously EXPECT us to be mind readers and not have any valid fears because, oh I don’t know, WE’RE HUMAN?!

“What are the statistics again? IIRC 1 out of four women get assaulted. And men are statistically more violent. A lot of women say they have to give out fake numbers. Because they don't know how a man would react to the word no.”

“Fake numbers”? You are definitely not listening to yourself! I don’t know a single woman who tries to give out “fake numbers”. What’s really going on here is that we are told to be specific and they can’t handle any uncertainty so we are instead forced to give out any number that comes in our heads! Because forcing a sister to estimate can really damn her! And also, are you expecting us to know how a certain man would react to the word no even though we don’t know anything about him? What would happen if the roles were reversed?

“And I don't think it's fair to say I'm generalizing women here. Either it's all (or most women) share a universal experience, and men must understand that (men are often criticize a lot for not understanding that). Or none of this is true, women feel safe when walking alone at night. So men who don't interact with women are just being irrationally paranoid or closeted creeps. It can't be both.”

Except that most men that lack the understanding of women’s experiences aren’t criticized AT ALL. They’re simply being educated. If you seriously think any kind of education is “criticism”, you’re sorely mistaken! Another exception is that you’re ALSO generalizing women by undermining our fears and experiences! Also, what makes you think none of women’s experiences are true? Andrew Tate? Is that you? Not to mention, nobody said men who don’t talk to women are “irrationally paranoid or closeted creeps”, that’s YOUR WORDS, not ours. You’re clearly making up a scenario in your head to get yourself and your fellow men all worked up about! All over nothing! All you simply have to do is just listen to women and get better understanding of them. Why can’t you understand that?

“Similar to how women aren't mind readers that can magically tell the difference between good men and bad men. So they must be cautious, and assume all men are potential threats. Men are also not mind readers who can magically tell when a woman wants to be approached, or not be approached (especially in public or the workplace). So men must be cautious, and assume that all women don't want to be approached. Again it's better to be safe than sorry.”

This is not an equal comparison. From what I know, most men (white men) aren’t being threatened and followed by some giant Amazonian woman. Mind reading has got nothing to do with it! All you have to do is to learn to control your impulses! In other words, don’t say anything suspicious. How come you still cannot understand it?!

“Men are drag through the mug, when they mentioned the phrase "not all men". Because people say this phrase downplay women experiences. And take away attention from women valid fears.”

And we’re back to the victimhood mindset! “Drag through the mug”? What the fuck does that even mean? Are you having with your Google translate again? Why does it hurt you so bad that someone points out “not all men” is dismissive to women? If guys like you are so offended by the phrase “not all men”, sounds like it has a lot more to do with you than anything else!

“But whenever I see people call men paranoid or closeted creeps for limiting their interactions with women. They ironically use the phrase "not all men". So when it comes to this specific topic of men interacting with women less. Why is the phrase "not all men" ok all of a sudden?”

And by “people”, you mean women, right? How exactly is that women’s fault for men being unable to talk to women?! Like I said earlier, NOBODY is calling men “paranoid” or “closeted creeps”! Once again, you’re blowing it out of proportion instead of just taking the time to actually get educated on women.

Also, there is a huge difference between using “not all men” as a dismissive tactic to undermine women’s struggles and using it to add that men are complex individuals just like women. The real “irony” to this entire argument is the fact that you spout all this nonsense all while contradicting yourself throughout! The evidence is right in front of your fucking face! Yet you still can’t see it!

Fuck it! I feel like I’m talking to a brick wall.