“Dating is harder for men” “women deserve less” 🤮 are straight men ok?

Ladies, have you heard of this before?

”I just don’t see how hard it is for women in dating. They can just get hit on at any bar or club they go to and they can either say yes or no. Same thing with the dating apps - it’s just totally skewed towards women where they can have 9999+ likes waiting for them.

Meanwhile for guys, you either go out in real life and most likely will get rejected, either because she’s not interested or has a boyfriend or some other excuse. Guys can talk to 10+ women at a bar and still walk away empty.

It’s pretty mentally and emotionally draining to continue like that - it’s almost like mental abuse being asked to go out there, put yourself out there and get rejected over and over again.

Or with dating apps, they’re just useless because women either don’t match with your or don’t even respond, even if you have the wittiest line or the most personalized message ever. You can literally send 100 customized messages on whatever dating app you prefer and hear nothing back. Meanwhile women can just sit back and just wait for the messages and matches to roll in - it’s like a cake walk.”

What in the actual fuck are these guys even on? They really think their lives are harder just because they’re men? Do they seriously think women don’t struggle in dating?

Plus OP on Reddit don’t want to accept opinions different from his own, he wants a woman-hating agenda.

”Not the same. Glad the boys had their fun with you though. Women deserve less.”

I swear to god these men are fucking disgusting!

”It's much harder for men”

OP’s reply?

”thank you”

”You are so off. Idk what makes you believe an average woman still doesn't have it easier than even the top looking guys. YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING. I think yall really underestimate that. A guy has to do 99% of the difficult work let alone the work behind the scenes they have to do to be dateable. I make good money. I've never once thought about the occupation of my partner as a factor in their dateablity but that's the first question your home girl will ask you about a potential partner. Y'all have to do hair and make up I need to go to college, pass, buy a nice car, have savings, have a house, maintain my finances etc. Yall literally just don't understand. In order to be A- dateable requires more investment and B- actually get the date requires more investment.”

Next comment is from the same guy:

“Yeah you took a weird turn with this conversation. I'm glad to have changed your mind to now you can admit it's easier to get a date as a girl. Every day there is a woman who kills a man in a car accident. Don't know what this has to do with the conversation but I guess it's random fact time. Victimhood mindset, how often do you hurl phrases around in non-applicable situations as an insult? Sounds like Stockholm Syndrome to me.”

“I want to assume that OP is talking about the the amount of legwork men have to put into just to have a chance of any success. Like always having to be the one to approach, being the one to plan the dates, making sure that she's the one that's comfortable, and being the one to lead the interactions. Not to mention the time that men have to invest just so a woman would consider him "dateable". I won't go into online dating since most guys know by now chances of success are pretty damn low unless you're really physically attractive (Herp derp top 10%). There's also the fact that most women are very (understandably) defensive around men.

Both sexes have their on struggles. I'm not going to pretend that women don't struggle with dating. From what I see as a man the main things I see women struggle with is keeping a guy that they like, potential safety issues and figuring out if a guy legitimately likes them or just wants sex. Unless a woman looks like she's had her face dragged on the concrete since birth a woman can find a man, and I'm pretty sure they know this which is why women shoot for the top, because they can and men will approach them via online or IRL.

It's not really the case for men. Women don't actively go for guys. If a guy waits for a woman to approach him then he basically dies alone. They don't have the advantage of being desired just because they are man. Men aren't really desired unless they are either above average in looks, have some form of high status or if they have an attractive personality. And according to Reddit women they hate being approached in public lol.

So I'm not saying this to downplay women's dating struggles but after actively dating I'd say that men have it more difficult because of what they have to do in order to succeed in dating.”

OP’s reply?

”I wish I could give 50 thumbs up for your answer”

”While I (M,21) cannot speak for any woman, my experience on dating is rather grueling and awful with no real results...

Dating apps and online goes like this. Selectively like->go through all possible women in my area (usually 50 miles with f 20-25)-> no matches-> delete app and move on.

In person is generally worse because College is honestly awful for people that hate to party and don’t enjoy alcohol. So I experience classes where all my classmates are my fellow seniors and we’re all acquaintances and it’s a great atmosphere, but terrible for dating since they’re men, women in relationships, or already married.

The library is empty most times with no women to converse with.

Restaurant. “Oh hi, Do you go to [insert college name]? I think I’ve seen you on campus.” “Are we ready to order?” “Huh?” “Have you decided what to order?” Skip to paying bill. Over tip and ask again in case she didn’t hear. Ignores me again. Whelp at least the food was okay.

Bar- oh I don’t see anyone that’s possibly single. Wait, nope wedding ring or engagement ring. “I’d like a diet coke” sits and looks for other women to possibly ask. No luck

So we move to events/activities... no a woman younger than 40 in sight... whelp I’ll go talk to Larry from the grant committee we’re on.

The grocery store, oh well no women, okay moving on.

The mall bookstore, gets a coffee and sits down before perusing books. Looks around for women, notices one. Oh that’s a stroller, then a husband walks in the store with nike bags. Well at least I’ll get that new book by dawkins.

Such is the experiences of a man in his early twenties”

Then there’s OP’s reply to women getting harassed and raped:

”Still sounds better than no one wanting you at all”

Are you fucking kidding me?! What is it with men and dating?! Do they really not give a shit about women’s lives being at risk?!

OP’s sexist reply continues on:

”No options is always worse than an abundance of options. It's like Milly Bobby Brown complaining that there is no Oscar Worthy Movies trying to cast her. It might suck that you have to play in dead end movies but most actors would kill for that.”

My god, this dude is a fucking moron!

”So much harder for men. From personal experience, I've had a week or two go by before getting a match with online dating at one point.”

”it took me years”

“But that's not even close to the same. Since April 6th I have gotten 15 conversations on Bumble for a grand total of 2 dates (and that's including a newbie boost from resetting my account and trying Spotlight once). You're complaining about not getting a response in the span of 2 to 3 days. A guy can go weeks without a single response.

Anyway, Bumble didn't used to be this bad. I seriously probably got somewhere around 10 times as many matches last year as I do this year. I don't know what they changed, but it's made it virtually useless if you don't pay. I don't know if it changed for women, though.”

”I think you guys have a huge advantage”

”Not sure what kinda guys you swipe on but we've already seen the data on women in regards to dating apps so...”

”There is absolutely no question at all that it is harder for men. Anyone who denies this is not living in reality.”

”explain how it is harder my good sir”

UGH!!! The sheer ignorance of men!!

”No it's definitely harder.

“In short for men, the supply of men is high and the demand is low”

Youve just confirmed it's harder”

”That’s not an equal problem. It’s better to have too many options than not enough.

Hell, having that many options is a perk, not a problem.”

”Anything becomes a demand do it's scare nature. Attractive men are in demand because they are scarce.”

”Being an attractive men is extremely hard thing to achieve. It's very few men who are very attractive for a reason.

It's much much harder to become a really attractive man compared to a woman”

”What the fuck are you talking about? Attraction is not purely physical.”

I don’t want to go all day on this bullshit so let’s end it off on one that calls OP out on his bullshit:

”I read this thread your attitude is so defeatist and against anything that isnt your opinion - that it's annoying ... I honestly have no care for whether you figure it out or not at this point... if you think it's harder for men, then ok.... it is - so what? tough shit... what are you gonna do about it... either figure it out, turn gay (or into a gender that doesnt require you to be a straight male playing the role to bed a straight female) or stfu...

you're a loser of epic proportions..... it's too hard for you.. don't bother dating... my.friend ....”

Phew… thank god that’s over with.

Now if you excuse me, I’m going to rest easy knowing my asexuality means I don’t have to go near shitty guys.