Never in my life have I ever heard a woman tell a guy to “be a man”, it’s other men

It’s that time again! It’s time I look into another cringey post made by some ignorant dipshit who knows nothing about women. This time, it’s on Reddit, and the title is called:

”Women that tell a guy "be a man", have no idea what's it means to be a man.”

Immediate red flag spotted: first of all, this sounds very oddly specific. Second, I have never, and I mean NEVER heard a woman tell a guy to “be a man”, because it’s OTHER MEN who tell them that! Sigh… Anyway, let’s continue:

”Usually said in the context of an argument, an insult, telling the guy he's not doing enough, or trying to get back at him.”

”not doing enough”? Not doing enough of what? House chores? Legitimate love and wholesome relationships? Also, “trying to get back at him”? I am far more concerned on what you did to the woman that made her apparently say it to you. Again, your post sounds very oddly specific.

”When in actuality they have no idea what a guy has going on in his mind, what he's concerned about, cultural or ethical concerns, difficulties expressing emotions, mental and physical concerns, sexual health, and the other myriad of issues regarding boys growing into healthy men and becoming a decent person.”

How the fuck is it women’s fault that men don’t say what’s on their minds?! Just fucking tell us already! Stop acting like a victim and own up! Just because one woman judged you doesn’t mean we all do it! We’re not a fucking monolith! Also, we’re not the ones acting like we know more about men than they know themselves! So stop blaming us for the mindset of OTHER MEN!

”Saying "be a man" gets as much done as telling an angry woman to "calm down". Most likely it will have the opposite effect.”

Except that the difference is that men just want to avoid responsibility and make all sorts of excuses meanwhile all responsibility is thrown on us women! It’s funny how you say us women don’t know what it’s like to be a man, yet you refuse to see the other side of the argument! You say that “be a man” is an insult, and I’ll agree. But saying “don’t be such a woman/you X like a girl” is even worse!

Because we’re women, we’re deemed as inferior compared to men, we’re weaker, more emotional, hysterical, and braindead. But according to these same men, we’re also violent, manipulative, man-hungry, going full fury whenever we’re on our periods, and anti-male feminazis. Like which one is it, men? Make up your minds!

”Also, this does not ignore or minimize anyone elses struggle. We can be concerned about many topics - this is just one.”

Funny how you say that, yet you deliberately leave out any struggles a woman has. Tracking back to what I said earlier, you say that women don’t know what it’s like to be a man, yet apparently men know everything about us women? This is so pathetic, it’s laughable! Sorry to burst your bubble, mister Mel Brooks-wannabe, but I can safely tell you from the bottom of my heart, that you know absolutely nothing about what it’s like to be a woman!

I’d love for you to learn to constantly put on makeup, shave your legs and pits, be of a socially acceptable body type, try to lose weight, AND try to survive on a gender pay gap while struggling with poverty, all while you’re being catcalled, harassed, and even threatened with rape and/or death. Then we can talk.

But that’s not the end of it folks, we’ve got comments, and holy shit we’ve got a ton. I’m only going to focus on a handful, so please bear with me.

”As a woman I find this highly offensive and degrading to say to guys. And I, for no reason at all, would ever say this to a man.

Want someone to really react? Tell them to "take ownership of their actions", "admit/recognize they are wrong", or maybe "to face the consequences" of their actions. But NEVER to "man up"/"be a man" or anything similar.”

I’d love to see how that “woman” would react if she were told by a man “don’t be such a girl”.

”If you hear those words come out of a woman's mouth, turn your ass around and go the other way. Manipulative nonsense.”

Does that mean they have to stay if the person who says it is a man instead? What does that also say about men who use anti-woman language?

”When a woman says "be a man", she usually means "do what I want to you to do". It is an insult being used for coercive control. The man should ignore her and continue doing what he is doing. Too many women define "being a man" as "doing whatever benefits women". Fuck that.”

No, fuck YOU! I can guarantee you this guy just wants an excuse to be lazy and when a woman finally has enough of his bullshit, he’ll throw a tantrum and blame women for his shitty and uncooperative behavior!

Woman: Honey, how many times have I told you to clean your room?

Man: No! Do it yourself!

Woman: I am sick and tired of you not cleaning up after yourself! You left your dirty laundry pile up for weeks! And you haven’t even taken the garbage out round the same time! The smell is unbearable!

Man: Dammit, woman! You never let me do what I want to do! You women are all the same! Always telling me to do everything that benefits YOU!

Woman: No, all I said was for you to take your part in the household chores. When will you just learn to grow up and take responsibility?!

Man: Fuck you, bitch! All you women want is for men to do everything that benefits them! So shut the fuck up and make me a fucking sandwich, whore!

(woman leaves)

Man: Where are you going?!

Woman: Away! I’m filing a divorce!

Man: Fine! Fuck off, you stupid hoe!

(woman slams door behind her)

Man: (to himself) Ugh! Why are women so mean and shallow?!

“Flip the tables. Your wife is giving birth. “Real women are FINE, I don’t get why you are bitching so much”—not okay, so why is saying man up okay.”

Women aren’t telling men to “man up”. It’s OTHER MEN!

”I HATE this form of thinking.

Who the fuck dictated what it was to "be a man" anyway?!

Why does fixing trucks and drinking beer have to be manly but playing with your kids and doing their hair isn't???

To my future husband and future sons, i promise to always accept your form of manliness and to always hear your concerns.

Women complain that their men show no emotions but then raise their sons to do the same thing.

It's fucking sick and needs to end.”

Great, another man pretending to be a woman. For fuck’s sake, toxic masculinity is not women’s fault! You know what’s really sick? Men who love to play the victim and constantly blame women and girls for all their fucking problems!

”I feel bad for men when they are told this because as OP said, women really have no idea what it means to be a man just like men haven no idea of what it means to be a woman. Men’s concerns and problems are just as important as a woman’s so we shouldn’t be going around telling them to man up— that’s so toxic and imo a good way to repel meaningful relationships with a man in general (platonic or not). It’s an insult point blank.”

Only problem is, men’s concerns and problems are brought up far more than women’s and non-binaries’ because they’re the fucking majority! And the times they’re brought up is that so they can shut down any experiences of minorities! For the last time, toxic masculinity is not women’s fault! Women aren’t the ones talking about how we know everything about men! It’s funny how they treat “man up” like an insult (which it is), yet they fail to recognize that these gender-related insults also hurts women.

Now for something off-topic:

”I don't see men haters among you women retreating to a remote island and fronting each other, so why expect men to do the same?“

Found the incel! You’re just mad because you men think any criticism against men is “misandry”! Stay mad lol

“Everyday billions of sex sessions are happening between men and women. I bet there's someone drilling you too.”

I’m asexual, dumbass! You’re not getting any sex drives out of me.

“If you hate men as a woman or hate women as a man, you're just delusional.”

Takes one to know one, pal.

“No gender can do without the other, except for lesbians and gays”

Buddy, this is not the gotcha moment you think it is.